Tornadus-Therian Duo/Trio Guide


Overview

Tornadus-Therian is underwhelming. Base 238 Attack isn't terrible, but a lackluster Flying-type moveset in Air Slash/Hurricane means that Tornadus-T performs worse than Moltres, Honchkrow, Rayquaza, and even Unfezant (the Pidgey of Gen 5), while requiring Rare Candies. Bite/Dark Pulse isn't a bad Dark-type moveset, but Tornadus-T lacks STAB, meaning it performs worse than Houndoom and Absol, let alone the stronger Dark-types like Weavile and Hydreigon.

Level 40 Rampardos is the only Pokemon that can duo Tornadus. If you do not have 6 maxed out Rampardos, this guide will also cover the trio, which is much easier.


Tornadus' Movesets
Tornadus
Air Slash
Grass Knot
Tornadus
Bite
Grass Knot
Tornadus
Air Slash
Hyper Beam
Tornadus
Bite
Hyper Beam
Tornadus
Air Slash
Hurricane
Tornadus
Bite
Hurricane
Tornadus
Air Slash
Dark Pulse
Tornadus
Bite
Dark Pulse
  • Air Slash is boosted by STAB and has much higher Base Power than Bite. Despite being resisted by Rock- and Electric-types, Air Slash will still hit harder than Bite.
  • Grass Knot hits Rock-types for super effective damage and can be used frequently, making it the most difficult Charge Move to face.
    • Grass Knot Tornadus cannot be duoed in neutral Weather without Dodging. With Dodging, you would need extremely good RNG to duo Grass Knot.
  • Hyper Beam hits hard, but it comes out infrequently and predictably due to being a 1-Bar move. It is also resisted by Rock- and Steel-types, making it much easier to face than Grass Knot.
  • Hurricane hits hard and is boosted by STAB; however, Flying is resisted by both Rock- and Electric-types, making Hurricane fairly easy to go against.
  • Dark Pulse comes out frequently, has good neutral coverage, and hits decently hard. In terms of overall difficulty, Dark Pulse is around the same level as Hurricane.

Weather
  • Partly Cloudy boosts the power of your Rock-type attacks, making the duo much easier if you're using Rock-types. Under Partly Cloudy, Level 40 Rampardos and Smack Down Tyranitar are capable of duoing all movesets, even Grass Knot.
    • Level 40 Rhyperior is capable of duoing all movesets except Grass Knot; Level 40 Aerodactyl is capable of duoing against Hurricane, but not any other moveset.
  • Rain boosts the power of your Electric-type attacks. Under Rain, Level 30+ Raikou, Level 35+ Electivire, Magnezone, Zapdos, and Luxray are all capable of duoing all movesets.
  • Snow boosts the power of your Ice-type attacks. With Snow, Level 40 Weavile and Glaceon become capable of duoing all movesets.
    • Level 35+ Mamoswine is capable of duoing all movesets except Grass Knot.

Tornadus Duo - Viable Counters

Minimum viable levels assume Best Friends, no Weather, no Dodging.

Italics indicate a Legacy move.

vs. Hyper Beam, Hurricane, & Dark Pulse

Rampardos
Min. Level: 40
Smack Down
Rock Slide

Level 40 Rampardos is the only viable option for duoing Tornadus without Weather.

Dodging Charge Moves will make the duo much easier, as you can cut down the total death count to 10-11, or 5-5.5 deaths per trainer, allowing you to avoid relobbying entirely.


Tornadus Trio - Viable Counters

Minimum viable levels assume Best Friends, no Weather, no Dodging.

Italics indicate a Legacy move.

vs. Dark Pulse

Rampardos
Min. Level: 20
Smack Down
Rock Slide
Raikou
Min. Level: 25
Thunder Shock
Wild Charge
Mamoswine
Min. Level: 25
Powder Snow
Avalanche
Tyranitar
Min. Level: 25
Smack Down
Stone Edge
Zapdos
Min. Level: 25
Thunder Shock
Thunderbolt
Magnezone
Min. Level: 25
Spark
Wild Charge
Weavile
Min. Level: 25
Ice Shard
Avalanche
Electivire
Min. Level: 25
Thunder Shock
Wild Charge
Glaceon
Min. Level: 25
Frost Breath
Avalanche
Luxray
Min. Level: 25
Spark
Wild Charge
Alolan Golem
Min. Level: 25
Rock Throw
Wild Charge
Rhyperior
Min. Level: 25
Smack Down
Stone Edge
Aerodactyl
Min. Level: 30
Rock Throw
Rock Slide
Jolteon
Min. Level: 30
Thunder Shock
Thunderbolt
Mewtwo
Min. Level: 30
Psycho Cut
Thunderbolt
Golem
Min. Level: 30
Rock Throw
Stone Edge
Jynx
Min. Level: 30
Frost Breath
Avalanche
Zebstrika
Min. Level: 30
Spark
Wild Charge

The Tornadus trio is much, much easier than the duo. Almost any Ice-, Electric-, or Rock-type found on this list, powered up to Level 25-35, will be able to trio.

vs. Hurricane

Raikou
Min. Level: 20
Thunder Shock
Wild Charge
Electivire
Min. Level: 20
Thunder Shock
Wild Charge
Magnezone
Min. Level: 20
Spark
Wild Charge
Rampardos
Min. Level: 25
Smack Down
Rock Slide
Zapdos
Min. Level: 25
Thunder Shock
Thunderbolt
Mamoswine
Min. Level: 25
Powder Snow
Avalanche
Tyranitar
Min. Level: 25
Smack Down
Stone Edge
Luxray
Min. Level: 25
Spark
Wild Charge
Alolan Golem
Min. Level: 25
Rock Throw
Wild Charge
Rhyperior
Min. Level: 25
Smack Down
Stone Edge
Glaceon
Min. Level: 25
Frost Breath
Avalanche
Mewtwo
Min. Level: 25
Psycho Cut
Thunderbolt
Weavile
Min. Level: 30
Ice Shard
Avalanche
Aerodactyl
Min. Level: 30
Rock Throw
Rock Slide
Golem
Min. Level: 30
Rock Throw
Stone Edge
Jolteon
Min. Level: 30
Thunder Shock
Thunderbolt
Zebstrika
Min. Level: 30
Spark
Wild Charge
Manectric
Min. Level: 30
Charge Beam
Wild Charge

Electric-types perform very well against Hurricane compared to other movesets, thanks to their resistance to Flying.

vs. Hyper Beam

Rampardos
Min. Level: 25
Smack Down
Rock Slide
Raikou
Min. Level: 25
Thunder Shock
Wild Charge
Magnezone
Min. Level: 25
Spark
Wild Charge
Zapdos
Min. Level: 25
Thunder Shock
Thunderbolt
Tyranitar
Min. Level: 25
Smack Down
Stone Edge
Rhyperior
Min. Level: 25
Smack Down
Stone Edge
Alolan Golem
Min. Level: 25
Rock Throw
Wild Charge
Glaceon
Min. Level: 25
Frost Breath
Avalanche
Mewtwo
Min. Level: 25
Psycho Cut
Thunderbolt
Mamoswine
Min. Level: 30
Powder Snow
Avalanche
Weavile
Min. Level: 30
Ice Shard
Avalanche
Electivire
Min. Level: 30
Thunder Shock
Wild Charge
Luxray
Min. Level: 30
Spark
Wild Charge
Aerodactyl
Min. Level: 30
Rock Throw
Rock Slide
Jolteon
Min. Level: 30
Thunder Shock
Thunderbolt
Golem
Min. Level: 30
Rock Throw
Stone Edge
Aggron
Min. Level: 35
Smack Down
Stone Edge
Excadrill
Min. Level: 35
Metal Claw
Rock Slide

Yes, Aggron can trio Tornadus-T. No, this does not mean Aggron is a good attacker. The fact that Aggron can trio Tornadus-T is a testament to how easy the Tornadus trio is, rather than how good Aggron is.

vs. Grass Knot

Raikou
Min. Level: 25
Thunder Shock
Wild Charge
Zapdos
Min. Level: 25
Thunder Shock
Thunderbolt
Magnezone
Min. Level: 25
Spark
Wild Charge
Electivire
Min. Level: 25
Thunder Shock
Wild Charge
Mewtwo
Min. Level: 25
Psycho Cut
Thunderbolt
Luxray
Min. Level: 25
Spark
Wild Charge
Mamoswine
Min. Level: 25
Powder Snow
Avalanche
Glaceon
Min. Level: 30
Frost Breath
Avalanche
Weavile
Min. Level: 30
Ice Shard
Avalanche
Rhyperior
Min. Level: 30
Smack Down
Stone Edge
Tyranitar
Min. Level: 30
Smack Down
Stone Edge
Aerodactyl
Min. Level: 30
Smack Down
Stone Edge
Alolan Golem
Min. Level: 30
Rock Throw
Wild Charge
Zebstrika
Min. Level: 30
Spark
Wild Charge
Jolteon
Min. Level: 30
Thunder Shock
Thunderbolt
Excadrill
Min. Level: 30
Metal Claw
Rock Slide
Rampardos
Min. Level: 35
Smack Down
Rock Slide
Rayquaza
Min. Level: 40
Dragon Tail
Ancient Power

With no Dodging, Rampardos is non-viable for the trio against Grass Knot under Level 35, due to how many times it will faint at low levels.

If you can dodge all Grass Knots, however, Rampardos is trio-viable at Level 20.